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YouTubers Dan and Phil are courting: Why they forgive invasive followers for ‘attempting to out us’
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YouTubers Dan and Phil are courting: Why they forgive invasive followers for ‘attempting to out us’

Last updated: October 14, 2025 8:15 pm
Editorial Board Published October 14, 2025
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British vloggers Dan Howell and Phil Lester — recognized for his or her gaming and comedic slice-of-life fashion movies — are taking possession of their long-rumored romance after greater than a decade of incessant fan “shipping” on-line.

The longtime collaborators revealed Monday that they’ve been courting for greater than a decade, just about since they gained reputation within the late aughts. The YouTubers confirmed they’ve been an merchandise in a 46-minute video titled “Are Dan and Phil in a Relationship?”

“We fell into it hard and fast in 2009,” Howell, 34, stated. “And here we are almost 16 years later.”

Earlier than Howell and Lester, 38, spoke in regards to the origins of their couple-dom, the YouTubers— who each got here out as homosexual in 2019 — talked extensively about why they waited go public with their relationship. First, they tackled some followers’ obsessive conduct.

Howell and Lester started showing in one another’s YouTube movies within the late aughts and ultimately, in 2014, launched their shared gaming channel — that web page at present boasts 2.95 million subscribers. The pair documented their lives collectively, opening the door for followers to take a position on their relationship and foster a parasocial connection, Howell defined within the video. Among the many most outstanding web personalities on the time, Howell and Lester typically grew to become the topic of fan fiction and fan edits on Tumblr.

“Some think that shipping real-life people is problematic. I think that humans cannot stop this natural tendency,” Howell stated, later including that “a line gets crossed” when fan hypothesis turns into investigation.

The pair recalled followers combing by way of their previous social media posts, reaching out to their family members and filming them out in the actual world. “If all this digging, investigating was small it could’ve been ignored,” Lester stated.

“The problem is this became so big we could not ignore it,” Howell continued.

Howell and Lester additionally recalled followers dissecting their on-camera interactions and spreading the romance rumors throughout stay occasions. Finally, the rumors grew to become “too loud to ignore,” Lester stated.

Howell stated he was cautious about how going public with Lester would affect their skilled dynamic and spoke candidly about how his struggles together with his sexuality affected their relationship.

“I had an extremely homophobic childhood,” Howell stated, including that the fixed fan stress to handle the rumors took a toll on his psychological well being. He stated that when he and Lester gained reputation he felt he “had to hide the relationship because I was still hiding who I was to my friends, family, myself.”

On-line chatter didn’t assist and “hit a nerve,” he stated. Howell stated Lester was “like a literal ray of light in my life back then” and dedicated to defending their relationship.

“So when other people tried to grab it and drag it into the light, I felt completely violated,” Howell continued. “Having all of these people trying to out us and being so hostile to me when I tried to hide it was so triggering. Honestly, it could’ve killed me.”

Lester added: “It’s sad because those should’ve been the happiest times of our life. It was so amazing and we were having so much fun personally.”

Invasive fan conduct hung over their success “like a curse” and that led to anxiousness and panic assaults, Howell stated. Lester additionally recalled a “breaking point” of their relationship the place a private video leaked on YouTube and unfold on-line, with re-posters refusing to take it down.

As they acknowledged the unfavorable affect of some followers’ invasive conduct, the YouTubers stated they don’t maintain a grudge. Howell stated the skeptics “were just young people that had absolutely no idea what the effects of their actions were.”

“In the same way that we all want people in our lives to give us patience and grace and benefit of the doubt if we ever make a mistake, I have to extend that to the world in regards to this story,” he added. “So I understand and I forgive.”

Howell and Lester, whose work additionally consists of BBC Radio programming and a number of other stay excursions, ended their video saying the launch of a brand new podcast.

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