Marilou Schultz (Diné) along with her 1994 work “Replica of a Chip” (all images courtesy the artist, except in any other case famous)
MESA, Ariz. — In 1964, inspired by subsidies from the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Navajo Nation management, the Fairchild Digital camera and Instrument Company opened a big manufacturing plant within the northeastern nook of the reservation. The ability primarily employed Diné girls to assemble microchips. These laborers had been usually characterised as being notably adept at this type of work attributable to “nimble fingers” and a historical past of manufacturing intricate jewellery and weaving, racialized claims illuminated by modern students like Lisa Nakamura.
By the mid-Nineteen Seventies, the Fairfield plant had turn out to be the biggest employer on the reservation, nevertheless it was additionally suffering from poor working circumstances, low wages, and little job safety. These points got here to a head when the American Indian Motion (AIM) occupied the plant in protest of a wave of layoffs. The plant ultimately shut down.
A number of years later, Intel started producing microchips in a brand new plant a few hours’ drive from the Navajo Nation. Whereas the corporate’s destructive environmental and social affect on the area has been extensively documented, Intel made a notable cultural contribution by commissioning fourth-generation Diné weaver and math trainer Marilou Schultz to create a weaving of a Pentium microchip in 1994. The mission was technically demanding, requiring important experimentation, and spurred Schultz to embark on a 30-year path of exploring new applied sciences by weavings, creating Diné textiles of digital graphs, QR codes, and 4 different microchips. Works in her microchip collection had been included by curator Candice Hopkins in Documenta 14 in 2017. Since then, she’s been featured in a number of worldwide exhibitions, together with Woven Histories: Textiles and Fashionable Abstraction on view at New York’s Museum of Fashionable Artwork (MoMA) by September 13.
Past these institutional exhibitions, although, Schultz has lengthy been a central determine in Native artwork markets within the Southwest, the place she has proven work alongside different Diné weavers equivalent to her late mom Martha Gorman Schultz, sister Lola Cody, and niece Melissa Cody. She is broadly revered for reintroducing the Diné wedge weave approach and for pushing the boundaries of Navajo weaving types — reworking her items into sculptural kinds full of optical illusions and what she calls “special effects.”
On the markets, Schultz typically brings a photograph album full of many years of snapshots documenting her work throughout quite a few collection. This archive reveals a lifelong dedication to experimentation and innovation guided by Hózhó, a multifaceted Diné idea that roughly interprets to stability, magnificence, and concord. I spoke with Schultz concerning the broad visible vary of her work by interviews at her dwelling studio in Mesa, Arizona, and some Zoom calls. These conversations have been edited and condensed for readability.
Zach Feuer: Within the late Nineteen Nineties, your untitled work reimagined a chief blanket by weaving it in three elements. This appears to have interaction concepts of deconstructing, beneficial iconic kinds, emphasizing the abstraction in Diné weaving, and difficult the performance of the textile by creating a chunk that exists purely as artwork. What was your thought course of behind weaving it in three elements?
Marilou Schultz: I needed it to be like a show, nearly like a portray on a wall. That was the preliminary thought. Reasonably than having only one strong piece, I questioned why I couldn’t part it off into panels. That’s how the idea developed.
I thought-about several types of blankets. A primary-phase chief blanket wouldn’t work due to its easy striped design. The second-phase blankets, with rectangular shapes within the corners, additionally wouldn’t lend themselves properly to this strategy. I even thought of monkey blankets, which I like, however their simplicity meant that rearranging the panels wouldn’t create a lot variation.
Finally, I settled on a third-phase chief blanket as a result of its design allowed for motion whereas nonetheless retaining its recognizable construction. I might make two narrower aspect panels and a bigger central panel. By shifting these panels, the design would nonetheless be seen however might be rearranged in several methods. The opposite traditional blankets I thought-about wouldn’t have had the identical impact.
I wove all three sections on the similar time. The outcome was stunning. When photographed, the three panels might be displayed collectively or shifted into totally different preparations. That’s additionally how I bought them — as a set of three items.

Marilou Shultz, “Untitled” (2008), wool (picture courtesy Nerman Museum of Modern Artwork, Kansas Metropolis)
ZF: Was that the primary piece you consciously created as a piece of “art,” somewhat than a purposeful blanket or textile?
MS: Sure, I believe so. All my different items had been singular works that would nonetheless be seen as purposeful in a roundabout way. However with this piece, I deliberately approached it as an artwork object meant for the wall. It was by no means meant to be worn or used as a conventional textile. There was no method to put all of the sections collectively as a purposeful blanket. It was purely an artwork kind, designed to be considered like a portray. That’s what made it particular. As you understand, it’s one among my favourite items.
ZF: Are you able to inform the story behind your first microchip portray?
MS: That mission occurred round 1996 as a result of the rug itself was accomplished in 1997. Louis Baca, who labored with Intel in Chandler, was concerned in organizing a convention the place the theme was “Weaving and Technology.” As a part of this occasion, Intel needed to current a present to ACES (the American Indian Science and Engineering Society), and Louis thought it will be significant to fee a weaving that mirrored expertise.
He got here up with the concept of incorporating an Intel microchip design. On the time, he approached me about it, and I agreed with out even realizing what the design appeared like. I simply knew it was going to be a microchip. Once I lastly acquired the picture, I noticed that it was an intricate, summary sample. My first thought was, What did I get myself into? It was overwhelming, and I wasn’t positive I might translate it right into a weaving.
ZF: Diné weavings are sometimes created with out drawings, counting on generational information and reminiscence. However your weaving is in contrast to every other — what guided you in determining how one can create it?
MS: I began by specializing in colours. I liked that the unique piece used pure tones, which I knew I might replicate. The true problem got here with the weaving approach. I had to make use of a raised define approach that alternates [between] two colours to create stacked designs. My mom had all the time woven diagonal designs utilizing this methodology, however she had by no means tried vertical designs. I had to determine how one can adapt the approach to create the interlocking vertical patterns vital for the chip design.
As soon as I had that discovered, shading grew to become the subsequent problem. I needed to work with varied shades and thoroughly line them as much as create the required depth and distinction. To handle the complexity, I divided the eight-by-10-inch picture into 64 sections. I didn’t draw a cartoon or mark my warp; as a substitute, I relied on measurements and eyesight, mapping every part instantly onto the weaving.
I used to be pressed for time, so I enlisted my mom’s assist. I introduced her to Mesa, and on the primary day, I informed her to weave as she noticed match. Once I got here again at lunch, she was mendacity down. I requested her if she had accomplished something, and he or she stated, “I can’t do it.” It was troublesome for her to shift from weaving geometric designs to one thing extra summary. Ultimately, I needed to full the piece myself.
I met the deadline and introduced the weaving to San Jose for the convention. After they unveiled it, I observed college students gathering round, pointing at totally different sections of the design. They had been possible engineering college students as a result of they began naming particular elements of the chip — parts I had no thought about after I was weaving it. That second was fascinating as a result of it added a brand new layer of understanding to the piece for me.


Works in progress at Schultz’s studio
ZF: It’s fascinating that the scholars helped form your understanding of the work. Does your position as a math trainer affect your weaving?
MS: Sure, I consider so. I see quite a lot of mathematical buildings — geometry, patterns — in each math issues and weaving. The way in which I educate and work together with mathematical ideas positively influences how I strategy my artwork. Communication is an enormous a part of each fields, and dealing with computer systems in my instructing has additionally influenced my work. If I weren’t a trainer, I won’t spend as a lot time on a pc, however publicity to totally different applied sciences and strategies has knowledgeable my creative strategy.
ZF: Your new work on show at Kunstverein München references each AI and the Diné creation story of Na’ashjé’íí Asdzáá (Spider Lady). Modern Diné weavings usually incorporate historic applied sciences. How are newer applied sciences affecting the content material and means of your work?
MS: Know-how completely impacts my work. In some ways, weaving itself is an historic expertise, and I take into consideration how one can merge custom with fashionable supplies and methods. For instance, when folks discuss particular results in movie, I take into consideration particular results in weaving — how totally different threads or supplies can create new visible experiences.
Know-how permits me to see and discover artwork from around the globe. I strategy each bit as an artist first, all the time drawn to colours, shapes, and the way issues are used. When creating new work, I problem myself to do one thing totally different. That’s how I ended up incorporating metallic yarn into my chief’s blanket piece. Historically, sporting blankets was purposeful, however I assumed, If trend evolves, why can’t Native wearable artwork evolve too? So I used metallic thread to make the blanket shimmer, adapting an previous kind to a recent aesthetic.
With my circuit board-inspired items, I take the identical strategy. Historically, I’ve labored with wool, however now I ask: What different supplies can I exploit to reinforce realism? If a picture options aluminum, why not use metallic thread to imitate that impact? Know-how influences each the method and the supplies I select, serving to me merge conventional weaving with modern innovation.
ZF: Diné weavings are usually not as prevalent on the East Coast as they’re within the West, and for some guests, Woven Histories could also be their first time experiencing a Diné weaving. Is there something you’d prefer to share with somebody seeing a textile by a Diné artist for the primary time?
MS: What I all the time emphasize about my weavings is that they preserve the identical elementary methods our ancestors have used since time immemorial. The fundamental weave stays unchanged, counting on the warp and the back and front weaving methods. What has advanced over time is the fabric — although solely to some extent, relying on what every weaver chooses to make use of.
The loom itself stays primarily the identical — an upright vertical loom. The instruments are additionally unchanged; we nonetheless use the batten and weaving comb simply as our ancestors did. Whereas the technical facets of weaving have remained constant, the creative expression throughout the craft has advanced. The query turns into: What can we do with the designs?

Schultz at Kunstverein Munchen along with her work “Integrated Circuit Chip & AI Diné Weaving” (2024), aniline dyed and shades of indigo and pure hand-spun Navajo Churro wool yarns, primarily based on the Fairchild 9040 built-in circuit chip produced on the Shiprock plant
ZF: So, how do you determine what to do with these designs, how a lot can you modify whereas sustaining Hózhó?
MS: Experimentation performs a job. Whereas the wool stays a continuing, some weavers, together with myself, combine different supplies — however all the time with intention. I don’t add simply something; no matter I incorporate serves a function. Whether or not it’s to create a particular impact, obtain a sure coloration, or symbolize an thought, each materials selection is deliberate.
For instance, in my subsequent piece, it wouldn’t precisely depict the circuit or chip design I’m impressed by if I didn’t incorporate a silvery factor. Via analysis, I found that the fabric in query was aluminum. In images, I observed a specific sparkle, and I needed to duplicate that impact in my weaving. My guess was appropriate — it was certainly aluminum — so I requested myself: How can I seize that shimmer in my work?
With my artwork and my weaving, the supplies stay rooted in custom, however the designs and ideas evolve with time. We’re influenced by how we interpret the world round us — our interactions with expertise, the altering panorama, and our lived experiences. On the similar time, we keep grounded in stability, drawing from the pure parts — the land, the wind, the rain, the water — all of which proceed to information us.
That’s what I need viewers to remove from my work.

